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Who is Israel? [message #1123] Mon, 07 March 2016 13:51
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Who is Israel? or Where is Israel? I think if I'm not mistaken, every single tv preacher preaches Israel is the physical nation of Israel and that the Jews are also Israel.. This is a false doctrine..which leads others to miss understanding of prophecy.. ect.. ect..

So let's start with the first time in the Bible we see the word Israel


Gen_32:28 And He said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

Why did Jacob's name change to Israel? Because he pleaded and repented for his sin of stealing birth right.. He wrestle with God and prevailed. Wanting to be blessed by Him.

We are to do the same if we want to be consider part of Israel.. wrestle with God in Prayer.. plead for forgiveness and have faith your sins are forgiven.. and we too following Christ can be consider Israel.. we don't have to be born into it as some Jews and Christians preach.. This is where the doctrine lies.. in miss understanding who all can be consider israel and who all can't be consider.. Israel.. Can the Jews still claim to be Israel?

Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.


They have rejected the Light that Christ is the Saviour.. God will also reject them because of this.


Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

How is it people consider the Jews a blessed people.. they rejected, denied and kill the Saviour..which there fathers onced followed. They are no longer consider part of Israel anymore..


Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

who ever believes in Him should not perish... the Jews don't believe in Him.. there not the chosen people..

Mat 21:33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
Mat 21:34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
Mat 21:35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.

Who are these husbandmen are these the Jews? who are the servants are they not the Prophets that were beat, stoned and killed..

Mat 21:36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
Mat 21:37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.

Who is the Son is this not Christ? and what did they do to Christ..

Mat 21:38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
Mat 21:39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
Mat 21:40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?

Listen to what they tell Christ..

Mat 21:41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

This is where others can partake and be consider husbandmen..


Mat 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Mat 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

The kingdom isn't always going to be with someone of the Ancient blood line.. the kingdom can be taken from someone and given to someone else.. by there fruits ye shall know them..



Act 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.

They had to turn to gentiles.. because the Jews had there chance.. they didn't take it.. so as the Bible declares Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; They had to reject and turn to the next guys.. which are the gentile.. you can't spend for ever trying to plead with one man.. if he doesnt want to listen then try to save the next soul.

So who is the Jews of old today? who is Israel of today?

Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

We are Israel today.. the same Christ Moses followed to be consider Israel we follow today.. wither so ever He goeth..

Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


What is the promise?


Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

if we be Christians.. we are counted as Abrahams seed.. we are counted as the original blood line of Abraham.. because we follow and have faith in the same manner as Abraham did towards Christ.. the Jews today deny the one Abraham sacrificed too.. they deny Him who change Jacobs name to Israel.. so there not following God anymore.

Again looking at the promise ...

Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

of course this is speaking of a characteristic of antichrist but its none the less has different truth in it.. if you denieth that Jesus is the Christ.. then your a liar.. and scripture is clear

Rev 21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

if your a liar you wont be in Heaven..

Hosea prophesied what would happen to Israel of old...

Hos 2:23 And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

those that were not originally Gods people will not become part His people.. this again was prophesied..

Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

all the gathering of the people will be when Shiloh come.. or the messiah or as we know Him Christ.. The Jews only thought of themself as a blessed group of people and thought they would always be blessed.. but this is far from the truth.. it is by there fruits ye shall know them.. not by there blood.. or geographical location.. in the physical nation they call Israel.. ONLY by fruits.

Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

This is speaking of the actual Israel of today.. there are many people in Israel but only few will be saved..Christ said the same thing..

Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Many go to Hell.. Few make it to heaven.. if this should teach you anything it's that many are wrong and few are correct.

Jer 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
Jer 31:36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Jer 31:37 Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

The Jews of old departed from the ordinances.. they turn there back on God..



This message we have talked about right now needs to be shared with the Christians that think the Jews are saved and with the Jews themself... there still people God loves regardless of whether or not they are in sin they to like us when we were in sin need to hear the truth.. They drastically miss understand just where they are and time is of the essence..

"And now also," said the prophet, "the ax is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." Not by its name, but by its fruit, is the value of a tree determined. If the fruit is worthless, the name cannot save the tree from destruction. John declared to the Jews that their standing before God was to be decided by their character and life. Profession was worthless. If their life and character were not in harmony with God's law, they were not His people. {DA 107.1}

it's not by your name your saved... whether your called a jew.. or your called a sda... whether your part of this church or that church... its your fruits that determine the tree.. and are fruit should be preaching to every loss soul.. that needs to understand they to can be part of Israel.. they too can take hold of the promise of being heirs to Abrahams promise and being counted towards Abraham seeds...

Matthew 3:9-10, "And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.  And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."


Right before Christ said this parable it says
Luke 16:14 And the Pharisee also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him

So the Pharisee which are Jews came up to hear.. What does Christ do? next verse says

Luke 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God

Right after the Jews show up Christ rebukes them He tells the Jews the parable of the rich man.. so who is this parable aimed for?
Luke 16:19-20 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

Who is the rich man in this parable? The Pharisees or Jews back then where wealthy.. both in Knowledge of God and in Money and in Promises of God ect..
But the poor man represented by a man named Lazarus were the Gentiles. Poor spiritually, poor in money and in knowledge of God.
Christ knew what was written down in Isisah 49:6 and so did the Jews He rebuked.

Isaiah 49:6 I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
But the Jews where not spiritually feeding Gentiles like they should with the words of God.
The Gentiles were desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: Luke 16:21
Christ has said Matthew 4:4 It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

The Gentiles where desiring the crumbs that the Jews were storing away from them.. The Jews were not sharing the words of God.
Luke 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom:

Now do we really believe that when you die you are literally taken into Abraham's Bosom?? no.. this is a parable it means something.. Abraham bosom is where every Jew wanted to be and Christ is showing that the poor man gets to go there instead of the Jews. and Where did the rich man go?

Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

The rich man is in Hell.. Christ is explaing because He didnt share the spiritual food from his table that he will end up in Hell. This rich man cried saying

Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Notice who is he calling Father??? Abraham.. This is another reason you know the rich man is a Jews because they relide on the fact that there blood line was from Abraham so thats why you see the rich man saying Father Abraham.. Now the rich man is asking for the poor man a drop of water to cool his tongue. This shows the table has turned.. like Christ said the First will be Last and the Last First.. the Jews were first.. now there last..


Luke 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented Abraham told him you have been blessed with all these things but the Jews did not share it with those who received evil things.

Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

This symbolizes that its too late now.. you cant make it to Heaven after you are in hell

Luke 16:27-31 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou would-est send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Who else would also die and raise from the dead? were the Jews persuaded even though Christ rose from the dead.. no. The Jews continue in there way still today and this rich man still continue in his way and said go to my familys house and warn them.. not go into the world and warn them.. this show us again that he was concerns with himself and his family only..

This Parable is for the Jews that walked up to Christ.. Christ is telling them there no longer following Him.. and because of that.. we know what happen to rich man.
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